huevos: crudos o cocidos?

no es q quiera ocupar el lugar de administrador/moderador de esta pagina en la q soy nuevo pero no me parece q pongan mensajes como el de arriba q no tienen argumentos. de ese modo no hacemos nada.
Ademas no podemos hablar de una unica dieta igual para todos porque por ej yo peso actualmente 86kg el chico q dice q come toda la vida cocidos pesa menos de 65kg 20 kg menos q yo y si los come cocidos presumo q solo come uno por dia para hacer un total de 7 en la semana ese calculo debe ser el q hace pero no se condice con alguien q pesa 20 kg mas como es mi caso.
Asi como tampoco es igual una dieta para un mujer cargada de estrojenos y por ende con mas tendencia a juntar grasa q un hombre ... en fin pongan argumentos loco.
 
Siempre cocidos!! _porro_
 
yo como unos 5 a 7 por dia, cada cuerpo es un mundo, a mi me vienen mejor cocidos, saludosssssss y relax "misterbicep" amigo tomalo con calma
 
"y relax "misterbicep" amigo tomalo con calma" escrito por el sujeto de arriba de este mensaje. te contesto... no lo tomo nada con calma es mas ahora tengo pensado ponerme bombas al rededor de cuerpo y hacer un ataque suicida contra mcdonalds!! jajaja ... en q momento te parece q no lo tomo con calma? solo vi este foro y me registre para comentar lo q se yo sobre el tema.
en realidad soy de otros foros tipo anabolandia en donde tengo el mismo nick q aca. por ej.
saludos mañana empiezo a realizar el plan para inmolarme contra mcdonalds!
 
Estudios a favor puedes subir alguno??

Me interesa, gracias.

Canario, aquí uno a favor del consumo de los huevos en estado natural:

The Health Benefits of Raw Eggs By John Claydon D.Hom

The process of cooking eggs destroy the very goodness that our bodies so desperately need as the nature of proteins and fats is altered when exposed to heat. When cooked, the egg protein changes its chemical shape; it is often this process that can be the cause of allergies. Generally when eating raw eggs, any incidence of egg allergy will disappear.

Surprisingly, in spite of ‘bad press’ raw eggs, organic or at least from a known source of healthy free-range chickens, are an excellent health tonic. The regular consumption of raw eggs will do wonders for your overall health. Exceptionally easy to digest, raw eggs provide a wonderful boost to the immune system, and a completely balanced nutritional package. A good immune system is one of several things the body needs to overcome cancer.

Many people’s diets are deficient in high quality proteins and fats, and eggs are one the very best sources of these. Raw eggs have many benefits, they contain essential nutrients for the brain, nerves, glands and hormones, they are nutritionally balanced, and we highly recommend the addition of raw eggs to your nutritional programme. The sulphur amino acids help to keep you young, raw eggs also contain an abundance of other vital substances including protein, essential fatty acids along with niacin, riboflavin, biotin, choline, vitamins A, D and E, magnesium, potassium, phosphorous, manganese, iron, iodine, copper, zinc and sulphur. Egg yolks are one of the few foods that contain vitamin D.

Poisoning from salmonella has been exaggerated in the past. A study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture in 2002 indicated that only 2.3 million, of the 69 billion eggs produced annually, are contaminated with salmonella. In other words 0.003% or 1 in every 30,000 eggs. The bulk of these come from battery chicken eggs and chickens kept in unhealthy conditions - only sick chickens lay salmonella contaminated eggs. If only healthy chicken eggs (organic and free range ideally) are consumed, then far less than one in 30,000 eggs are contaminated. Salmonella is a common micro-organism found almost everywhere, and is just as likely, or more likely, to proliferate on cooked food kept in the fridge. Infection is normally mild gastric symptoms, but in rare cases where the immune system is very low such in the elderly who have had much anti-biotic use, and the source is greatly contaminated, death can result. But such a person is highly lightly to contract one of many common micro-organisms and die from that. To give some perspective, in the highly unusual situation of contracting Salmonella, in a healthy person, an infection is nothing to worry about and is easily treated with high quality pro-biotics every half an hour until you feel better.

Method of Consuming Raw Eggs

From day one of starting raw eggs, your immune system becomes stronger and health will improve. We recommend Zell Oxygen as a key supplement for overall health enhancement. Three raw eggs a day (this will take the place of one meal), seems to be the preferred amount taken by people who regularly consume raw eggs. It is sensible to build up the amount of raw eggs consumed gradually. They are best taken by breaking them into a cup and swallowing whole. It can be helpful to cut through the yolk with a knife to make it easier to swallow, If you have a mental problem with swallowing raw eggs, (they are almost tasteless and easy to swallow) blend with a little goats or sheep’s milk or even avocado, but ideally raw eggs should not be blended as the molecular structure is damaged. Inspect the egg, if it has been cracked do not use it, once broken into the cup or blender smell it, if it smells off do not use it.

It is best to keep eggs un-refrigerated, but in a cool place. Refrigeration can destroy the vital amino acids in raw eggs and can also disguise the distinctive smell of an egg that has gone off.

Raw Eggs and Cholesterol

There is no danger from the cholesterol build up since 2/3 of cholesterol in the body is produced by the liver. The amount of cholesterol consumed in the diet does not relate to the amount of cholesterol deposited. Many studies have shown that the cholesterol in eggs does not raise cholesterol level in the body. Furthermore, eggs contain Lecithin, a valuable nutrient that helps the body to process fats and cholesterol.

Eggs contain valuable fat needed to keep us healthy. On the other hand heated or processed fats are converted into Trans-fats - toxic chemicals that harden in the body, around every cell and clog the circulation. Margarine contains an abundance of Trans-fats and is not part of a healthy diet. Do not be afraid of that natural product that has been eaten with no adverse effects for thousands of years, butter. The initial report that cholesterol in foods leads to health problems was released to the press without scientific validation, and has since been proven by hundreds of scientists and studies around the world to be completely false. The only benefits from the initial press release were to the margarine and vegetable oil industries.

Raw Eggs and Biotin Deficiency

Nature created an egg to be a balanced live food – as long as you eat the biotin rich yolk along with the white, there is no risk of a biotin deficiency.

Quote from the book “The Recipe for Living Without Disease” By Aajonus Vonderplanitz

Free range (ideally from healthy chickens, including organically certified, even better are fertile eggs).

“Raw eggs are one of the best compact foods in nature. Eggs are the ultimate, complete fast food. However the protein in eggs is not utilised for cellular reproduction. They are utilised for regeneration and maintenance. The relationship between raw eggs and salmonella poisoning is a myth"
(Reference the great egg panic by Emily Green, LA R times Jan 2000)

Eggs are remarkable for everyone especially the infirm. Three years ago a medical doctor called me on a Thursday evening about her 70 yr old female patient with emphysema. She explained that her patient had been mainly bed-ridden for two years, was on 100% oxygen and respiratory machines. She prognosed that her patient would die that weekend unless I could help. I told her that the only thing I thought might help at that late stage was eggs. I recommended that she get her patient 10 dozen raw eggs, and put them on her bed table. I suggested that she ask her patient to eat one as often as she could and that there was no limit. Very early Monday morning, I received a call from the patient. She told me that she was off the machines, out of bed and feeling stronger that she had in years. She had eaten 66 eggs over the weekend.

If eggs are whipped, beaten or blended without raw milk, raw cream, or coconut cream, many of the enzymes are oxidised and lost.” It is best to break open the egg into a cup or glass and swallow whole. Most people are repelled by this, but with a little courage it is found to be easy. There is almost no taste and the egg, even big ones are easily swallowed. Generally, I find, 3 to 4 eggs taken in the morning are an important part of my well-being programme. The cholesterol in raw eggs is not deposited in the arteries and is an essential nutrient for aiding health and well-being. The white of the egg has been said to interfere with biotin assimilation, but nature knows best by making the egg yolk very rich in biotin. The egg in its entirety is a very balanced food and only supports health and should be taken in its entirety, yolk and white together.
 
Y este otro del famoso Dr. Mercola, quién es conocido en america por su ferviente defensa del consumo de los huevos crudos:

Raw eggs for health

I highly recommend consuming raw eggs as a way of making sure you get high quality protein and fats into your diet.
Why would anyone eat the eggs in a raw form? Heating the egg protein actually changes its chemical shape, and it is this change in the protein structure which can easily be a cause of allergies. The heating also destroys many of the nutrients and proteins found inside the egg.
What usually pops in people's minds when you talk about raw eggs are the risks of being infected with salmonella.
There is no doubt that salmonella is a serious infection. Its symptoms include diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, feve, chills. The symptoms of salmonella food poisoning can strike anyone, but they're more likely to hit 3 groups: the elderly; children; and people with HIV, cancer, or other diseases which impair the immune system.

Salmonella is usually a self-limiting illness in healthy people.

However the truth is that salmonella is generally a benign self-limiting illness in healthy people. The key principle to keep in mind here is that if you are healthy a salmonella infection is not a big deal. You may feel sick and have loose stools for a day or 2, but this infection is easily treated by using high-quality probiotics which contain friendly bacteria. Take some probiotics every 30 minutes until you start to feel better, and in most cases your condition will improve within a few hours.
The risk of salmonella infection is usually only present in traditionally raised commercial hens. If one purchases ones eggs from healthy chickens, the risk of infection is dramatically reduced. It's important to note that only sick chickens lay salmonella-contaminated eggs. If you purchase high quality, cage-free, organically fed, chicken eggs, the risks are dramatically reduced.
If one looks at studies which have been done to analyse the risks of contracting salmonella from raw eggs, it is surprising to find out how low this risk actually is. A study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture in 2002 (Risk Analysis April 2002 22(2):203-18) indicates that only 2.3 million, out of the 69 billion eggs produced annually, are contaminated with salmonella.
So this really means that only 0.003 % of eggs are infected. Viewed another way, only 1 in every 30,000 eggs is contaminated with salmonella, which shows how uncommon this problem actually is.
Based on those numbers, the average person would come across a contaminated egg only once in 42 years.

What about the biotin-deficiency risks from eating too many raw egg whites?

Egg whites contain a glycoprotein called "avidin" which binds biotin - one of the B vitamins - very effectively. The cooking process deactivates the avidin in the egg, much the same way it deactivates every other protein in the egg white.
While it is true that eating too many raw egg whites by themselves will cause you to suffer from a biotin deficiency, the fact is that nature created the egg in such a way that its yolk is very rich in biotin. One of the highest concentration in nature. Eat the egg whole together with the egg white and you will be fine.
 
Muchas gracias Masaru aunque voy jodido.

Intentare traducir algo con el traductor, por eso digo lo intentare je je.
 
Eso sale del segundo estudio je je, lo voy copiando y a la vez tambien lo leo.

Recomiendo consumo de huevos crudos como una manera de asegurarse de obtener proteína de alta calidad y grasas en su dieta.
¿Por qué iba alguien a comer los huevos en una forma cruda? Calentamiento de la proteína de huevo, realmente cambia su forma química, y es este cambio en la estructura de la proteína que fácilmente puede ser una causa de las alergias. El calor también destruye muchos de los nutrientes y proteínas que se encuentran dentro del huevo.
Lo que generalmente aparece en las mentes de la gente cuando se habla acerca de los huevos crudos son los riesgos de ser infectados con salmonela.
No hay duda de que la salmonela es una infección grave. Sus síntomas incluyen diarrea, dolor abdominal, náuseas, vómitos, FEVE, escalofríos. Los síntomas de intoxicación por salmonela puede afectar a cualquiera, pero es más probable que llegaron a 3 grupos: las personas mayores, niños y personas con VIH, cáncer u otras enfermedades que debilitan el sistema inmunológico.

Salmonella es generalmente una enfermedad autolimitada en personas sanas.

Sin embargo, la verdad es que la salmonela es generalmente una benigna y autolimitada la enfermedad en personas sanas. El principio fundamental a tener en cuenta aquí es que si usted es sano una infección de salmonela no es una gran cosa. Usted puede sentirse mal y tener deposiciones sueltas durante un día o 2, pero esta infección se trata fácilmente mediante el uso de probióticos de alta calidad que contienen bacterias amistosas. Tome algunos probióticos cada 30 minutos hasta que empiece a sentirse mejor, y en la mayoría de los casos, su condición mejorará en pocas horas.
El riesgo de infección por salmonella suele tener sólo presente en las gallinas comerciales de cría tradicional. Si uno compra los huevos de los pollos sanos, el riesgo de infección se reduce drásticamente. Es importante señalar que sólo los pollos enfermos yacían huevos contaminados con Salmonella. Si usted compra de alta calidad, libre de la jaula, orgánicamente de la Fed, huevos de gallina, los riesgos se reducen drásticamente.
Si uno mira los estudios que se han realizado para analizar los riesgos de contraer salmonela de los huevos crudos, es sorprendente descubrir cómo bajo este riesgo es en realidad. Un estudio realizado por el Departamento de Agricultura de EE.UU. en 2002 (Análisis de Riesgos abril de 2002 22 (2) :203-18) indica que sólo 2,3 millones, de los 69 millones de huevos producidos cada año, están contaminados con salmonela.
Así que esto significa en realidad que están infectadas sólo 0,003% de los huevos. Visto de otra manera, sólo 1 de cada 30.000 huevos contaminados con Salmonella, lo que demuestra lo poco común de este problema es en realidad.
Sobre la base de esas cifras, la persona promedio sería de huevos contaminados a través de una sola vez en 42 años.

¿Y los riesgos de deficiencia de biotina por comer demasiadas claras de huevo crudas?

La clara de huevo contiene una glicoproteína llamada "avidina-biotina que se une - una de las vitaminas B - de manera muy eficaz. El proceso de cocción se desactiva la avidina en el huevo, de la misma forma que desactiva todas las otras proteínas en la clara de huevo.
Si bien es cierto que comer muchas claras de huevo crudas por sí hará que sufren de una deficiencia de biotina, el hecho es que la naturaleza creó el huevo de tal manera que su yema es muy rica en biotina. Uno de los más altos de concentración en la naturaleza. Comer el huevo completo, junto con la clara de huevo y se le multa.
 
Vamos que por lo que puedo leer destruimos muchos de los nutrientes y proteinas.....

Ahora bien, jugamos a la loteria, y este señor indica que una salmonelosis no es para alertarnos demasiado, se trata y listo......._comorr_

Cuando pase por la tienda la proxima vez le preguntare al tendero donde compro los huevos, para ver si doy con la gallina y le pregunto si se encuentra enferma o no.

Y que pasa con el resto de estudios que indican la mala asimilacion siendo crudo??.

Yo seguire como hasta ahora claro esta.

Sds.
 
Pues mira tú que yo ni de uno ni de otro y pa "variar" hago de las 2, es decir, me hago los huevos revueltos, en tortillas y cocidos de toda la vida y además agrego crudos al batido post entreno; pero mira el detalle del primer estudio que indica que los huevos al comerse crudos, para mayor asimilación, es mejor comerlos sin deformar su estructura, es decir: sin batir, ni mezclar, incluso sin agregados extras, por lo cual solo recomienda romper la cascara, a un recipiente y pa dentro....

If eggs are whipped, beaten or blended without raw milk, raw cream, or coconut cream, many of the enzymes are oxidised and lost.” It is best to break open the egg into a cup or glass and swallow whole
 
Pues mira tú que yo ni de uno ni de otro y pa "variar" hago de las 2, es decir, me hago los huevos revueltos, en tortillas y cocidos de toda la vida y además agrego crudos al batido post entreno; pero mira el detalle del primer estudio que indica que los huevos al comerse crudos, para mayor asimilación, es mejor comerlos sin deformar su estructura, es decir: sin batir, ni mezclar, incluso sin agregados extras, por lo cual solo recomienda romper la cascara, a un recipiente y pa dentro....


Hombre agregarlos al batido aun, pero directamente aunque tengo un paladar de marmol no llego a tanto creo yo.

Nuevamente me doy cuenta que en este mundillo nadie se pone de acuerdo je je.

Muchas gracias por todo Masaru._chino_
 
Hombre agregarlos al batido aun, pero directamente aunque tengo un paladar de marmol no llego a tanto creo yo.

Nuevamente me doy cuenta que en este mundillo nadie se pone de acuerdo je je.

Muchas gracias por todo Masaru._chino_

Muy cierto Canario, cada teoría o estudio tiene su correspondiente réplica, por eso al final queda la experimentación sólo y pues al igual que tú yo paso te bebermelos directamente, los pongo en el batido y ya está.

Hombre, no hay de que....

1abrazo.
 
por eso jaja, ¿en qué quedamos?

yo parto dos huevos en un vaso y ale pa dentro, el primer dia me dio un poco de asco sobre todo las claras, aunque luego te acostumrbas. La yema cruda está muy rica.

no entiendo por qué no se van a asimilar las proteínas por estar crudo. también tenemos que calentar el pavo, o el atún, o todo lo demás? xD...
 
claras crudas? QUE ASCAZO ! xD yo las meto al microondas 2 minutos y listo ! crudas son malas para digerir segun tengo entendido ademas de que puede pillarte salmonela :S
 
Habra muchos estudios en contra o a favor, pero eso de la salmonella no es un mito...
 
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